/int/ - International

Why didn't KC gain more traction yet? You're the first new Bernd in weeks who's come here.

>>7741 I'm new as well. I came here a few days ago.

>>7746 Does that mean we have multiple Aussies now?

>>7741 For every cool Bernd, we get 3-5 Kohl cancers. If we grow too fast, the cancer will take over.

>>7748 I'm very surprised anyway that we have so little kohl threads, the difference between here and Kohlchan/int/ is huge, really like two different worlds

>>7747 At least two.

>>7678 that's alright but you still need to understand that cartoons aren't real people. loli and shota are not the same as cp. Pedophilia and preference for loli anime have no relation. Unless you are using the name of an anime genre to describe the kind of shit that's posted on kohl; which is not drawings, but photos of real children... which is not loli. >>7694 lel, liberals are actually saying "kill all pedos" on twitter all day. Even the breadtubbers and so called leftist podcasters say pedophiles should get thrown in jail and raped forever. Meanwhile, conservatives are the ones who fluctuate between saying that pedophiles should be killed (and pedophile means everyone they don't like) and postulating that the age of consent should be lowered, while defending rich people and political and religious leaders who we all know rape children all the time. pics related.

>>7765 >Pedophilia and preference for loli anime have no relation. They do. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ky3HqvT3M8E

>>7766 >vice news >japan All I'm seeing is people making the argument, not proving it; other than posting an assumed correlation between production of loli porn and CP, but you could as well correlate that to population or GDP or any other number of things.For the most part is just the reporter going "ewww" at hentai mags. Hell, some guy points out there's no sceintific basis to link loli porn and child abuse and the reporter goes "it should be banned anyway because muh morals". No surprise comments are turned off. But if your argument is that loli is popular in japan where children are culturally valued as little more than property, which leads to rampant unpunished abuse of children, then that's a mistake; because this is the attitude towards children in much of the west too, yet loli-esque of content mostly comes from japan, somehow. The Jehova witnesses alone have a bigger pedophile problem than Japan, but they don't publish cartoons with lolis, do they?

>>7765 >that's alright but you still need to understand that cartoons aren't real people. I do understand that, and it's about the real people those cartoons pull toward our board.

the less I am reminded of the existence of pedoniggers, the happier I am tbh. if you are a pedonigger and you shut the fuck up about it it's cool, I don't shill my degenerate interests or make up an identity about it, who gives a shit. >>7765 >liberals are actually saying "kill all pedos" on twitter all day. >conservatives are the ones who fluctuate that's because as a rule leftists can't get money and rightists can't get sex. so you get these weird situations where the same people shilling for muh trad values are also the biggest degenerates. just one of the budding contradictions of the nascent right that will probably dominate public discourse in the coming times.

>>7772 >leftists can't get money and rightists can't get sex In that case, Bernd is the perfect centrist

1. Kid diddlers should be hanged from a tree or shot dead. Actual CP possession (defined as either involving real children or completely indistinguishable from such material) should land you in prison for at minimum 10 years (more depending on the severity) with compulsory sterilization. That's about all. I do not think the question of non-offending pedos really matters. If a person needs "help" or "acceptance" in order to not molest children, there is no worth in keeping them around. If a non-offending pedophile really understands the heinousness of his urges and has a decent sense of morality, they should have no trouble keeping those urges to themselves, stay away from kids to be sure, and be a law-abiding, productive member of society. Everyone can be happy that way, and no one will bother them. Win-win. If they're incapable of that, either they don't understand, don't care, or they have no self-control. Whatever the case, they can't be trusted not to molest or rape whatsoever. 2. Putin is an old coot playing a 19th century imperialist to his own country's detriment, feeding young Russians into a meatgrinder to plant more flags in the dirt of Donbass, Zaporizhzhia, and Kharkov, as if that strip of land is the difference between NATO subjugation and glorious sovereignty. A shitty ruler, although Russia had worse. Anyone unironically worshipping him is a retard. And I'm not being indignant: even from the standpoint of a Russian chauvinist who wants to see his country's power and influence grow, he's been a disaster in the last 10 years. A leader who's successful on his own terms can be respected regardless of whether the outcome aligns with one's personal preferences, but Vlad isn't one of them.

>>7788 Aah, the Japanball is a Russian VPN user.

>>7789 I'm a Croat, actually. Not to be confused with the other Croatball around here. Although I may drop my Japanball at some point in the future, idk.

>>7789 Can you just stop? Your politics are as cringe as every poltard‘s.

>>7791 I believe he just misread >...from the standpoint of a Russian chauvinist who wants to see his country's power and influence grow as representing my actual position instead of speaking hypothetically.

>>7791 There's literally no politics in my comment. What's your problem? Leave me alone, faggot. >>7797 No, it's just that I have only ever seen it spelled or pronounced Kharkov by a Russian colleague. Everyone else seems to call it Kharkiv. But maybe in Croatian it's Kharkov as well. I tried to be Conan but I ended up being Genta.

>>7800 Accusing someone of being Russian, although you have no direct evidence, is politics, my nigger.

>>7801 It's not an accusation and there's nothing political about being Russian on /int/. They used to one of the biggest, if not the biggest group on old KC, but a newfag like you wouldn't know.

>>7802 Let’s smoke the peace pipe together and overcome our past quarrels.

It's 420 somewhere, blaze eeet.

>>7771 Well I don't know if loli pics actually attract cp peddlers into a website, but I know that this is a rather flimsy argument for not allowing any kind of content in particular. One could easily argue that by calling this site krautchan you're inviting the kind of /pol/ cancer that at one point ran free on the original, or the one currently dominating kohl. On the contrary I don't see the issue with allowing anime threads if anytime someone tries to post actual children they get banned. Just look at how many threads with an anime pic in the OP are right now, not many. If there's many people geniunely interested in posting nothing but lolisho they'll probably go to a lolisho imageboard like atf or baraag.

>>7678 >KC.net doesn't exist I guess he meant kohl.

>>7701 >It's also a big difference between an occasional "Lolifaden" on old KC versus pedo shit all the fucking time on Kohl. Bernd doesn't see any difference. Never seen anything else than loli-threads on kohl, at least not on /b. Don't know what goes on on some maybe subboard.

>>7788 Funny how that works huh. If a person experiencing a type of sexual attraction is either magically good all the time forever or an unstoppable eventual rape machine what does it say about ... well, literally everyone else who experiences some form of sexual attraction? It's rather funny, because the majority of people who rape children aren't strictly pedophiles. It's like those kids who say that rapists should be thrown in jail forever specifically because, according to them, they'll no doubt get raped in there... but like, who do you think is doing the rapings in prison? But it demonstrates that when push comes to shove, a large portion of the population simply believes that raping is justified in specific occasions. So the only real difference between them and the guy sent to prison for rape is measure, not the moral principle. Now consider that the majority of people who do rape children are people with authority over them, people whose identity or job revolves around the idea of controlling and "correcting" children for the benefit of society: parents, teachers, priests, cops, guardians... Have you never acted out on an impulse, even when knowing you were doing something wrong? Were you born just magically understanding every moral principle you stand by today? I mean, maybe you do, and that's why it's so reductive. But I don't believe trying to make you see differently is inherently a waste of time. >>7847 I've only visited kohl's int like 5 times, and 3 out of those there was explicit cp on the first page. And the rest of the threads weren't much better, there were more threads about realistic AI pictures than there were anime ones.

>pedos The most insufferable people on the planet, they should be banned immediately when detected. I am truly infinitely sorry if you saw CP on .rip because our beloved BO had not put AI detection yet, but we try every second to fight for KC to be saved and pedo free and I can say ON MY LIFE I WILL NOT STOP UNTIL ALL OF THOSE BASTARDS ARE GONE!!! >putin I don’t like them but my BO has the server in ruskua and is Russian himself so we follow his pointless laws.

>>7852 I like you.

>>7875 Or don't if you don't want to see CP.

>>7852 That's a whole lot of words that says nothing. Vengeance is a real thing and is the one and only sole thing that can bring justice in the absence of a working law (as it is in the liberal post-modern western society); and all pedos should suffer, perpetually. Deal with it.

>>7675 >1) pedos Torture them to death publicly. >2) putin Flawed, but fights for a good cause.

>>7880 >but fights for a good cause. Thanks, Bernd, had a good laugh. You definitely have comedic talent!

>>7887 Don't you have some rapefugees to welcome?

>>7894 Don't you have some Kohl to annoy?

>>7897 Oh look, it's that bitch that tried to call racism a bad thing. Piss off to bluesky, KC is not, never was and never will be your lib echo chamber.

>>7900 Oh look, it's that newfag that tried to call racism a good thing. Piss off to Kohlchan, KC is not, never was and never will be your nazi echo chamber.

>>7901 Where do you think you are? You're comically clueless.

>>7852 >If a person experiencing a type of sexual attraction is either magically good all the time forever or an unstoppable eventual rape machine what does it say about ... well, literally everyone else who experiences some form of sexual attraction? That they can act on their attraction in good or bad ways. It just so happens there is no way a pedophile can do this in a good way that involves real children, hence they are not equivalent. >It's rather funny, because the majority of people who rape children aren't strictly pedophiles. "Strictly" is doing a lot of heavy lifting here. They may or may not be strictly pedophiles, but they're still pedophiles. A man who rapes another man may not be strictly "homosexual" in his attractions, but the urges that drove him to perpetrate the act are related to same-sex attraction and it's clear they form a part of his psychology. >a large portion of the population simply believes that raping is justified in specific occasions. So the only real difference between them and the guy sent to prison for rape is measure, not the moral principle. Yes, the rabble has a sadistic tendency that it loves to act upon, and it adores nothing more than being given a righteous pretext to indulge in it. None of this is enlightening or relevant to the discussion of how pedophilia should be dealt with. You could philosophize about the supposed hypocrisy of some guy demanding death penalty for murder while supporting a war his country is engaged in. Both, after all, involve taking human life. But it's sophistry to assert that there isn't a major, meaningful distinction between the two. We assign family greater moral value than strangers, to children more than the elderly, and to law-abiding citizens a lot more over violent criminals. This is normal and good! It's also good for our laws to aspire to greater impartiality than that, because the aforementioned prejudice can be taken to an unreasonable extreme, and neither mobs nor the emotions they're driven by are reliable dispensers of justice. That doesn't discredit it, though. Furthermore, none of that has any bearing on what should be done with murderers or--for a more appropriate analogy for the non-offending--a mentally disturbed hobo constantly yelling death threats at bystanders on a subway and exhibiting patterns of aggressive behavior. In the latter scenario, it's dumb to do nothing until they act on their words instead of institutionalizing them to remove the possibility from occurring. Likewise, it's dumb to give a self-admitted pedophile a benefit of the doubt that he won't abuse children given the severe consequences of misjudgment and the fact that he's far, far more likely to do so than the average person. Is that a reason to kill or imprison them if they didn't commit any illegal act? No. But there are a number of means of penalizing such individuals that would make sense. Social shaming and ostracism are typically society's most effective means of tamping down on undesirable behavior without getting the law involved, which in this case would entail some kind of thought crime legislation, and that is a bad precedent to set. For that reason I'm extremely disinclined to consider any form of "tolerance" to pedos. The taboo serves a purpose beyond giving people a socially acceptable target to dunk on.

>>7852 >>7950 Continued >Now consider that the majority of people who do rape children are people with authority over them, people whose identity or job revolves around the idea of controlling and "correcting" children for the benefit of society: parents, teachers, priests, cops, guardians... Sexual abuse requires access to the victim. It's a given that predators would either seek out or exploit their current positions of authority to perpetrate abuse. It's almost a necessary prerequisite for it to occur over a prolonged period of time. All this tells me is that society should practice strict oversight over whom it entrusts children to. In the case of parents, that's obviously very difficult, especially as the state itself can abuse its powers here such as seizing custody of children for political reasons. But it's much less so for the other examples you named, even if there are always going to be lapses. >Have you never acted out on an impulse, even when knowing you were doing something wrong? Yeah? I recall hurling water from an elevation at passersby below with a couple of friends back in elementary as a prank. That was bad. I ended up at the principal's office as a result and got a stern talking to. Deserved it, didn't do it again. The whole process played out in a manner appropriate for the gravity of the act. Never caused anyone serious physical or psychological harm, however. >Were you born just magically understanding every moral principle you stand by today? No. Which is why I re-evaluate and update them in response to new relevant information. A good habit to have. >>7800 Kharkov is how you typically read it in the context of WW2, which is what I primarily associated the city with before the Ukraine War, and it just got stuck.

>>7950 > A man who rapes another man may not be strictly "homosexual" in his attractions, but the urges that drove him to perpetrate the act are related to same-sex attraction Are you saying that prisoners are all sexually attracted to men? Bullshit. It’s about power most of the time. In prison, in the streets and when people rape children. Why do you think, old, fat or ugly women get raped? Because the rapist is attracted by them? No, because it was never about attracting for the rapist. Also, most men who are attracted by women don’t rape women. Most men who are attracted by men don’t rape men. What makes you think that most men who are attracted by children rape children?

>>7960 >What makes you think that most men who are attracted by children rape children? Because raping children is how faggots and pedoscum multiplies.

>>7960 >that prisoners are all sexually attracted to men? Do all male prisoners rape each other? >What makes you think that most men who are attracted by children rape children? I did not say that anywhere. I do not profess to know whether the proportion of pedophiles who rape children constitute 'most' or even 'majority' of them--that's impossible for either me or you to know with any meaningful certainty. But it's a safe assumption that a significant enough proportion does, which is much higher compared to the general population. >Why do you think, old, fat or ugly women get raped? Because the rapist is attracted by them? No, because it was never about attracting for the rapist. Instances of very old and ugly women getting raped does not contradict attraction playing a significant role in determining victims--you'd have to prove that they're subjected to sexual abuse with equal likelihood as their younger and more attractive counterparts. I do not think that's the case, but if you have solid data proving otherwise, please post it. Furthermore: https://rainn.org/facts-statistics-the-scope-of-the-problem/statistics-victims-of-sexual-violence >Additionally, RAINN reports that 90% of adult rape victims are female, with 10% being male, reinforcing the disproportionate impact on women. The fact that men rape women at a rate extremely close to the reported heterosexual-or-mostly-heterosexual identifying share of the male population reinforces the idea that yeah, sexual attraction does play a large part in determining victims. I suppose you could attribute a part of it to the fact that women are physically weaker on average and thus easier to victimize, but it most certainly can't explain that big of a difference. Not anywhere close. In cases of juvenile females where sex strength differences would be less of a potential confounder, they still end up 82% of the victims, per the same source above. Why don't men rape young boys at equal rates, if it truly is about power?

>>7964 >Do all male prisoners rape each other? From what I've heard, it's much more common than homosex outside of prison. But I have never been to prison or inside a man, nor have I had one inside me. So what do I know?

>>7975 Quite possible, but the rate of homosex on its own doesn't necessarily tell you much. You got 10 guys. One rapes 4 others. 50% have taken part in homosexual intercourse, but it doesn't mean half of them are homosexual. Given the types of people who end up in prison, coercion is going to be a major problem among them.

>>7981 ...but it can easily be driven by a small share of the prison population, is what I meant to say.

>>7983 Yeah, you're right. I heard a podcast about rape as a torture method in Israeli prisons today. I don't think the prison guards are Turing vollständig and if they are, they may not be attracted to Palestinian prisoners.

>>7987 >I don't think the prison guards are Turing vollständig They are just insane lunatics and psychos like many jews.

I'm surprised I wasn't banned for posting the product code.