/int/ - International

lmao imagine paying to stream your own videos.

>>14958 I don't have to pay, because I only stream on my local network. Why are you so hateful?

Why not emby?

>>14960 I'm hateful because they charge for nonsense. Nothing against you, but against plex. I use Jellyfin and I simply don't care if it's local or not.

>>15177 Did Jellyfin get better recently? In my experience Plex is much more polished.

>>15178 It's good enough for me, but Plex is better polished, at least the clients. However, Plex isn't even an option for me.

>>15165 >emby sounds gay

>>15182 Last time I tried Jellyfin I couldn’t get the mobile apps to connect to my local server and that was that. With Plex it worked flawlessly.

Bernd wants to build his own home server. Main reason is to host music and movies. What device is the best for this? Raspberry pi seems to be overpriced atm.

>>15212 Consider electricity as well as the initial price. An old PC might be cheaper but draw 100W on idle.

>>15213 Maybe I could transform one of my older thinkpads into a home server. Shouldn't be difficult. Apparently they draw very little electricity on idle, less than 50W.

Plex is a privacy nightmare. I sure hope you have blocked all of it in your firewall.

>>15212 Raspis are overpriced shit for 99% of the stuff they are used for (basically everything that doesn't make use of their pins). >>15214 >50 watt idle I sure hope energy in Croatia is cheap. My beelink draws about 8 watt without drives

>>15401 Don't really care, Plex users are 99% pirates, so they can't rat their users out without going bankrupt.

>>15409 https://birchtree.me/blog/plex-started-emailing-your-friends-and-family-what-youve-been-watching-people-didnt-like-that/ I don't want a company knowing what porn and stuff I watch on my pc

>>15402 >I sure hope energy in Croatia is cheap. It is not. I'm going to try and find a better solution. According to search results, a t440p shouldn't draw more than 20W. So I'll test that one. A t440p is also the most moddable thinkpad so there's plenty of space for drives.

>>15417 I'm using a cheap VPS and a Hetzner storage box. Something like 8€ per month for 1 TB and 24/7 availability. Only, it can't do live transcoding. It's not the most ideal with respect to performance, but it's the cheapest way I found. It corresponds to an average power consumption of ~35W, assuming hardware is free.

>>15419 Thanks! That seems like a good solution. Doesn't hurt to try in any case.

>>15421 As this thread is still about Plex, just a heads up that Plex blocks Hetzner servers.

>>15426 Noted, thanks. I'll experiment and see what works best. Plex, Jellyfin or maybe something else.

>>15426 Well, I only use hetzner for storage. But also >letting the software developer decide on what server you run their software

>>15431 #justplexthings

>>15214 I have an old x240 lying around, but it only has 240gb storage and I don't know if it's worth the hassle to upgrade

>>15214 >less than 50W You don't know much about laptops and energy, it seems. A laptop that used 50 W in idle would empty its battery *in idle* in about an hour. Typical idle power is 3-5 W or so, a watt or two less with screen off.

>>15428 https://www.amazon.com/Server-Pocket-i226-V-2-5GbE-Support/dp/B0DTF5Q4BV I use such, its way overkill though but i run many things on it. X86 is definitely noicer though. ARM gave me nothing but issues.

>>15656 Which OS do you run?

>>15656 Even seems to be able to do hardware transcoding with some effort.

>>15658 proxmox? :DDDD i have proxmox as casaOS which is effectively just a docker wrapper in which I run most stuff. Then I have another lxc running with turnkey webserver and some other stuff.

>>15660 I have do hardware transcoding ye. You do need custom image, although I think the emby guy released some official image last week for the N150 / N355. It works really well. Basically got my home server / NAS all in one, with plenty of power.

>>15663 But aren’t SSDs far too expensive to actually store lots of stuff on such a small server?

>>15664 For big media yes, but I often delete series and movies are watching them. If I want to keep them I have an attached 8TB HDD on USB. I dont need raid shit for movies and series that I can just redownload tbh. I have gbit internet.

>>15602 >Typical idle power is 3-5 W That was my initial assumption but some search results of people using similar thinkpad models as home servers reported anywhere between 20-50W consumption. >>15656 Noice!

>>15665 I see, how much power does it consume?

>>15656 How does that compare to a Mac mini? I recently bought one with an M4 for administration shit, mainly because my tax software doesn't run well on Linux. It feels like the fastest PC I have ever owned, but I don't know if it's just clever prioritising of user input to improve responsiveness, or if it's really fast. Never did any benchmarks though.

>>15705 Apple arm cpu's are very fast they make great computers now

The electricity measuring device arrived, I want to see how much power my desktop PC which I currently use to seed and host Plex draws, maybe between 25-50W and even if I have it on 24/7 it might only be like 11€ a month,

>>15803 Which one did you get? I want to measure the idle power draw of my old NAS because i fear i will NOT be pleasantly surprised.

>>15840 I have this one since it works well under 10W. Probably exists in bulky and overengineered Schuko as well.

>>15840 REV Stromzähler https://amzn.eu/d/dJGYSvr

I will take a go at installing Ubuntu Server on my Thinkpad x240 and using it solely for Plex. Let's see how it goes.

>>17199 Server and Plex installed, everything seems to work fine.

>>17217 Good job! How many watts does it consume?

>>17226 Idle seems to be 3-4W, but the measuring device also consumes maybe 1-2W, so I guess it’s around that.

>>17227 Noice

Question to Bernds that use a Thinkpad (maybe even as a server). Do you recommend installing tlp to save energy or might it interfere with the functionality of stuff like Plex?

>>17314 I never managed to find a good configuration but I heard that some people have good experience with it.

>>17315 I also installed it yesterday on mine and until now I haven’t encountered any problems, fingers crossed, but I guess even without it the watt usage would be pretty low

>>17314 >Laptop as server Please remove the battery

>>17351 Why?

>>17351 Removing the external battery was easy, sadly I don't have the adequate PH0 screwdriver. I just ordered one, better be worth it.

I did some more digging around and it seems limiting the charge of the batteries is also a good option. Then my server even keeps running in case of a short power outage, if I leave the batteries.

>>15416 >I don't want a company knowing what porn and stuff I watch on my pc Everything you do online is already known. There is no more privacy.

>>17354 Because not every ThinkPad has a working power-bypass that completely circumvents the battery while charging. And keeping a battery on constant charge for 24/7 over months will reduce its capacity in the best case and make it bloated in the worst

>>15177 Which app do you use to stream from your Jellyfin server to your mobile devices?

Meh..i have an nvidia shield which i use Kodi on to connect to my NAS.

I did a bit of testing yesterday: watching stuff in your local network over Jellyfin works just as well as Plex, but the UI is uglier. Then I looked into enabling remote access for Jellyfin, but it's too much of a hassle for me right now, so I won't pursue that any further. I spend 99% of my time at home anyway, so it's pointless to invest so much time in remote access. Just out of curiosity I checked out Plex Remote access (used the free trial for their remote watch pass) and it is much much easier to setup than Jellyfin's remote access, but it didn't work at all or only worked with heavy visual artifacts, don't really know what happened there. So I guess I'll keep on using Plex locally for the meantime.

I also had a thought: can't you get around paying the Plex remote watch pass by setting up a VPN in your router you connect to when you're not at home, so Plex thinks you're in the local network?

>>17710 can you run plex on OrangePi 5?

>>18026 Probably, if you're not transcoding.

>look up how to open Thinkpad x240 >it says it uses PH0 screws >buy PH0 screwdriver >still doesn't work to loosen the screws

This one is a monster, I wish they had 4k tho.

>>18607 >watching tv from some crappy russian streaming service instead of torrenting Nah pass

>>18609 Torrents is better indeed, torrents have 4k. I use AceStream on computer and Lampa + torrserv on TV to stream torrents, it works like a magic. You c watch torrets like it's a streaming service.

>>18610 >You c watch torrets like it's a streaming service. I know, but if I understand correctly the app you posted doesn't do that, but instead streams directly from some Russian site called Rezka?

>>18612 HDrezka is a pirate streaming, it streams from dedicated servers, no p2p. It's great, it has enormous amout of movies, I guess no other streaming service has it. I watch it when I don't want to mess with streaming torrents.

>>18612 The best torrent tracker is russian tho.

>>18619 No, not really. The best torrent trackers are private and none of them are Russian. And Rutracker is only the best public tracker for certain kind of media like music. For movies and TV shows I would strongly advise against using it, because they never have good 1080p rips and all their releases contain 5 different Russian dubs, which unnecessarily bloat up the releases.

>>18621 Rips are compressed af, why don't you watch bdremuxes insted?

>>18623 Because I don't have infinite storage space and I don't see the benefit. Good encoders manage to make transparent rips, that means rips you virtually can't distinguish from the source. That is good enough for me. Also encodes often fix shit that is wrong with the source (the remux) like removing dirty lines, applying filters etc.

>>18624 I can clearly see compression in dark scenes. >like removing dirty lines, applying filters etc Lmao who tf does that? You watch movies as they are without interfering. I always turn off all the goodizers on my tv.

>>18632 Those cases I mentioned are defects of the home releases. It’s not how the movie is intended to be seen, so if you wouldn’t fix those you wouldn’t watch the movie as it is, but only an inferior defective version. Good encoders know what they’re doing, spot those deficiencies and fix them. We’re not talking about stuff like instagram filters here, it’s about shit like banding, haloing, dirty lines, wrong chroma etc.

Personally I use Jellyfin

>>18632 >I can clearly see compression in dark scenes. This is such a dumb rate control fail, I don't get why codecs still do that. Dark scenes are generally easy to encode, but the codecs lower the bitrate *too* low - that's the whole problem. They overdo the bitrate reduction.

>>19015 This is a problem even with commercial releases. I've watched blue reis where I could play tetris with the color gradients.