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il Bernd 2025-10-17 18:56:03 No. 16420
Now that the dust has settled, was architecture modernism good or bad?
Just look at it, it's brutalism for smartphones.
like the 20th century movement or the new mcdonalds buildings
Doesn't matter. 19th century architecture was stuck with brick boxes with façade ornaments.
I like the original Bauhaus style (visited the Bauhaus twice) and I really like that one. It's sleek and modern, but it's also a pleasant place to be in for humans with some cool details, too. I think their style was bastardized into architectural wankery and, even more often, just building a simple box as cheaply as possible. Le Corbusier is another early modernist that I see as more problematic than Bauhaus. He seems to have been a kind of champagne commie who wanted to build efficient but pleasant housing for the masses (not necessarily for people like himself). His ideas were put into use without testing and the results were whole city quarters incompatible with human life.
>>16430 I also visited Bauhaus and I was surprised by how comfy it is. >>16429 Why it doesn't matter?
The church I go to is built modernist as well as all other churches near me, so that's a bummer. I wonder why people built ugly churches 50-70 years ago...
>>17977 But you are in Europe, shouldn't there be heaps of historic churches around you?
>>16420 It's post-modernist filth that must be eradicated from existence together with the post-modernists themselves. But the thing about post-modernism is that one can not fight it like any other ordinary cultural phenomenon, because post-modernism seeks the dissolution of the very structure of cultures itself. Anyone who seeks to eliminate post-modernism from the face of the earth must therefore, ironically, wield post-modernism as a weapon against itself. AI art is a brilliant example of this: the post-modernist filth sought to completely deconstruct the traditional art and eliminate the context of perceived objective European beauty from it for the last 100 years. Very well then, if everything is subjective, than the post-modernism itself also is. And thus the moment actual ordinary people took a hold of the means of free and easy artistic expression, they immediately flooded the infospace with iterations of traditionally beautiful European art, much to the desperate impotent seething of the leftist post-modernist filth who are now realising that they are nop longer the mediators of the narrative they've been trying to pass off as a global consensus. Somehow, people want Ghibli Lord of the Rings, and not obese sheboon nigger nike ads on their French architecture buildings.
Modernist set pieces can be nice, but it mostly functions as an excuse to make buildings boring and ugly.
>>17980 Barking up the completely wrong tree. Bauhaus is modernist, not post-modernist. They wanted pretty and useful things affordable for most people. They also didn't just want to "destroy" the old style or "deconstruct" anything, they wanted to create what they considered an all-around "good" new style. I don't think that they wanted to destroy anything already built neither. They also had great respect for the theory and practice of building things, unlike today's postmodernists who just want to attack "the man" (who created everything) and be the biggest victim.
>>18015 You are confusing architectural and philosophical terms. Bauhaus might be called a "modernist architecture", but it is a part of the larger post-modernist struggle to eliminate the concept of objectivity, hierarchy and standards. Post-modernism has many iterations, like the Frankfurt School filth, for instance, but fundamentally they all aspire the same goal: destruction of not only the culture, but of the very structure of the human being. And they are very open about it, you just have to read someone like Deleuze and Guattari to realise what kind of total war against reality they've been waging for the last 100 years.
>>18018 >post-modernist struggle to eliminate the concept of objectivity, hierarchy and standards Time-wise, they were clearly before post-modernism. You know what post means, right? They had a pretty thorough arts and crafts education before even starting their students on any conceptual stuff. They believed in knowing the basics and in building things well. Does any of that sound like post-modernist "nothing is true" wank to you? Like lack of respect for skill and craftsmanship, preferring some theoretical horseshit?
>>18018 Basically, you need to actually read up on Bauhaus instead of equating them with post-modernism because you *think* it is so.
What's more, life at Bauhaus seems to have been pretty fun. There are pictures of them doing sports, having themed parties with very imaginative costumes and so on. They were not the dour cynics that postmodernists typically are. Things that you might "accuse" them of that were probably somewhat true are closeness to socialism and classic liberalism (i.e. not the US term that somehow means $current_year leftism). They were indeed unconventional. They did have hierarchy, by the way. There was pretty traditional teaching, at least in the first years of study for every student. The teachers had their own houses off campus while students had small rooms in the Bauhaus. I have visited all of these.