/int/ - International

Also, this seems more civilized than kohl. But there is no one here. And you hate freedom of speech or non commie stuff or whatever.

Well, news about USA are typically well reported in germany. And also germans are mad because they lost cheap gas. If Putin hadn't started war, germany could still consume russian gas and have lower prices.

There was some shitstorm recently because ZDF doxxed a right wing YouTuber in one of their programmes, this backfired however and he doubled his subscriber count

>>16638 That's the thing. Germany could still have cheap Russian gas. German government decided to ruin Germany to show solidarity with "Ukraine". Jews are involved here at some level.

>>16638 Nord Stream was sanctioned by US long before 2022. And Ukrainians stole gas even in 2000-s. It's not about Ukraine. It's not even about Russia. It's about United States' government keeping Europe under their feet. https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/polish-court-considers-sending-suspect-germany-disputed-nord-stream-case-2025-10-17/

>>16641 True. Plus the bonus of inefficiently putting gas in sea tankers to send to Europe and sell it at huge profit.

>>16636 >Been watching ZDF heute journal for the last few days. They really hate AfD, Trump, and Putin. ZDF Heute Journal doesn't really have diverse topics. To be fair though, they hate ALL parties, according to them you better fucking vote for noone. On the other hand, Germany is so extremely boring right now, there's nothing else to talk about. Maybe thats a good thing. The cops shot a guy on a high frequented street that's always filled with tourists, in the middle of the day. Somehow that wasn't worth making a big deal of. Just like with our economy, our news only give a shit about other countries.

Trump and Putin aren't really likeable people.

maybe if Germany wanted to keep getting cheap r*ssian gas and r*ssia still wanted to sell it, they should've got together with r*ssia and work out a plan where p*tin in r*ssia doesnt break the constitution, goes away after his two terms to some dacha to grow tomatoes, where r*ssia doesnt invade georgia, doesnt agitate r*ssian speakers in Ukraine to riot, doesnt send unmarked troops and military equipment into Ukraine, doesnt occupy and annex crimea etc. etc. etc., but instead has free media which are not all owned by the government (as in get money and send profits from and to the government) and which report on issues from different perspective, and have free elections, and free courts, and freedom to create political parties which dont get struck down by the government beurau of registration for bullshit reason, dont deny demonstrations for bullshit reasons etc. etc. etc., maybe all of that shouldnt have happened and shouldnt have been done and then there would be no sanctions on the nord stream nor in 2008, neither in 2014 or 2022 or whenever, and Germany could keep buying cheap r*ssian gas while r*ssia could keep selling cheap r*ssian gas how about that?

>>16685 If "Germany" hadn't pissed in Russia's soup, " Germany" would have gas. But the green party didn't want that. They found a way of destroying "Germany" , because they are anti-German and they aren't happy if anything resembling Germany exists. Writing "Germany", because "Germany" now has now foreigners than Germans, and has lost all it's territory. Winning WWIi was the last chance for Germany to escape destruction and genocide, the chance was lost, the extermination of Germans and the destruction of Germany has been a certainty since 1945. It has all been planned. The plan just got out on halt due to cold war, not they continued from 1990.

>>16682 This

>>16689 Unmedicated schizos should be banned on sight.

>>16685 while all of what you say is true, there one more aspect of all that all the Eastern European nations are very chary of the possible rapprochement between Germany and Russia. these two powers managed to defeat and conquer us in the past, making us their colonies for hundreds of years. so we don't want that again.

>>16639 I mean it wasn't really doxxing. They neither published his real name nor his face nor his address, which are all elements of traditional doxxing.

>>16636 You're watching a show about news and politics only and complainbthat German media is politicized? We also have tons of bad to really bad TV shows in the ZDF mediathek.

You have to go back. You know where.

>>16685 Well, first pro-American coup in Ukraine and stealing gas happened around 2005, before Georgian war and Putin's third term: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russia%E2%80%93Ukraine_gas_disputes Look at the timeline, you confuse reason and consequence. Are you an emigré from Russia btw? >>16718 > making us their colonies for hundreds of years If you actually believe in this Polish narrative, look at the facts. In Russia people living on the territory of modern Belarus weren't treated different from the rest of the population, you were part of metropolis, not colony. Meanwhile Poles saw East Slavic population as "bydlo" with "viara chlopska", a cattle with cattle's faith. Maybe you don't believe in the narrative, you just want to believe in it. "If I say that I'm not Russian, but belong to an ancient nation of Belarus oppressed by Russia, they'll accept me into EU and give moni and make me 1-st world". That's never going to happen, "Roma traditoribus non premia". Look at it from perspective of western decision makers. Do you think they'll want to have busyness with people like you -- gullible people, who betrayed their literal relatives in order to improve their living standards. At best they'll use you as cheap cannon fodder, as it happened to Ukrainians. And they'll be right about it.

They are doing good. It's not eact against wect anymore but dictators against democracies. Civilians have to learn to defend their cunts against authoritarian movements in their own government against.

>>16768 >we were a better colonizer sure sure

>>16768 >Meanwhile Poles saw East Slavic population as "bydlo" with "viara chlopska", a cattle with cattle's faith. I can't blame them. Whenever I went on holidays in Asia the tourists from Russia were BY FAR the worst. Very aggressive and egoistic. With the exception of one young couple in Nepal, they were qiet, nice people.

>>16785 Russians and Brits. Considering Russian media, its crazy that Russians even dare to go on vacation, instead of worrying that a single step under the sun makes them gay.

>>16784 Are you sure that you understand what does "colonization" mean? Sure, you may just apply this word to any state or region, like "France colonized Burgundy" or "Russia colonized Belarus" or "China colonized Manchukuo", but there isn't much sense in it unless you're employing malicious divide&conquer propaganda, which is not in your interest in this case.

I feel the same about the economist. I open the main page and every article has the word trump, is about trump or complains/comments on something trump did. I'm not even a trump supporter, I don't live in the fucking US and I don't care that much, it's insane.

>>16798 >complains/comments on something trump did well, Trump is ruling the most powerful nation in the world, and he is really active this term as for complains, they openly say that they defend a socially liberal worldview, so it's natural anyway, as Steve Bannon once said the Economist is the best newspaper in the world in terms of coverage

>>16796 >let's get deep into definitions nitty-gritty whatever you call it, you were at least the same or in most aspects even worse oppressor than other colonial powers

>>16798 NY Times is the same since he was elected. Almost every article headline. Which is so ironic because 1) Their editors understand he's a narcissist and 2) It's what narcissists want more than anything. They can't help themselves. The right/left paradigm in the US is so restricted and idiotic there's nothing else to talk about.

>>16689 Blaming the green party is a psyop from oil and gas producing countries and you're gobbling it up like a good bot.

>>16803 corporate left has to keep their puppets in line because some one challenged free trade (sending manufacturing to a shit hole so nvidia can have stocks evaluated high than most countries GDP) after orange fool their will be a handsome white male. he will speech calmly, maturely. papers will say 'what handsome man got right on trade.' fat womens pussys will get wet, he will talk about gays and migrants, and many billionaires will become trillionaires thanks to left voters

>>16852 >their will be a handsome white male >he will talk about gays and migrants well, Biden was supposed to be that guy. then he chose to import 10 mln illegal immigrants. beats me to this day why Democrats decided to do this, as it was supposed to backfire in the elections. seriously, if they would have just kept immigration at Obama's levels, Biden would've won.

>>16857 >then he chose to import 10 mln illegal immigrants How can they be illegal if the president himself chose to import them? Doesn't the president have king-like authority?

>>16857 replacement is always the top agenda in western countries so they can get uber eats slave totally beholden to them. justin trudeau imported 34% of canada in the 8+ years he had a strangehold on the PM position, just didnt work out this time. maybe if he wasnt senile

>>16858 yeah, my bad. both in the linguistic sense that you mention (heh), but also in the factual as the number on the 10 mln chart refers to all immigrants. so judging from the bars it's more like 7 mln ehmm... unplanned immigrants. >>16860 >trudeau imported 34% of canada well, not the number exactly. but still pretty high. I'm amazed. tx for pointing it out. >uber eats slave totally beholden to them so the left political strategy is either importing voters (so to say North America approach) or pay money to the pensioners (European way)?

>>16862 >well, not the number exactly. but still pretty high. I'm amazed. tx for pointing it out. But the share of foreigners went from something like 11% to 12% according to this graph. That's 1% of Canada, give or take, and it's part of a general trend, so how much of this 1% can be attributed to Trudeau? t. Someone from a country where actually almost 30% are foreigners. >pay money to the pensioners (European way)? Not just pay money, also take care of them. Go to a Swiss hospital. So many doctors from neighbouring countries. Almost no Swiss nurses. If you're against migration, you should volunteer to wipe some asses.

>>16868 >But the share of foreigners went from something like 11% to 12% according to this graph nah, percentage is the red line with the right axis scale, so it's like 23-24% now >If you're against migration, you should volunteer to wipe some asses robots? like Japan aspires to do.

>>16870 Ah, you're right, I messed up the axes. >robots? like Japan aspires to do. Actually, Abe opened Japan to immigration. Sure, it's muss less than some other countries, but they have a lot of nurses from the Philippines. Give it a few years and they'll have a lot of foreign-born doctors as well.

>>16806 I never said anything about "being better colonizers" or "getting deep into definitions nitty-gritty", you're making up stuff for me. What I'm saying is that Belarus was just a normal part of Russia, part of its metropolis. Minsk Governorate or Vitebsk Governorate weren't different from Moscow or Tver governorates. Same as Burgundy is just a part of France rather than a colonized oppressed territory. Belarusian nationalism was invented in 19-th century by people outside Belarus and until 1917 was shared by a tiny part of people. You don't share these views, you think that Belarusians are some very different entity from Russians, moreover suffering centuries of their horrible oppression. People from Tver oppressed people from Vitebsk and in some aspects they did it worse than how people from Manchester oppressed people from Calcutta. I would be glad to hear any facts supporting your points of view, you're welcome to present them. Such horrible oppression must be obvious to show, yet so far I don't see anything pointing to it. However I see what would motivate you to believe your views regardless of how much they match reality: in some aspects Belarusian nationalism is a pleasant thing to believe in. Any troubles you have or had don't have anything to do with you, they're the consequences of Russians keeping you down. You as Belarusian is very cool and special, with unique ancient culture, you could be a second Denmark, if not THEM. But there is a simple solution, you need to distance yourself from Russians, even better - act hostile towards them, and then people of the free world will eagerly help you. However like many pleasant things Belarusian nationalism is actually unhealthy. It's a self-deception based on worst impulses and it will bring the opposite results.

>>16877 you concentrate too much on Belarus. your empire was oppressing many other peoples. anyway, that's so peculiar that every empire needs to make all the bad moves before understanding that other nations do have the right to exist and develop independently. Brits had their Northen Colonies, France had its Algeria, Austrians its Serbia, the list goes on. and now Russia has its Ukraine moment. finally, there is one thing that humbles imperialistic thinking, so I'm sure that your delusions about Belarus being invented will meet reality. it is demographics. it's fun to act empire when there is a flow of young men who you can give a Brown Bess and send to die. but with negative natural growth in Russia and you killing your youth in Ukraine as we speak, it's only a matter of time until you piss off.

>>16871 >Abe opened Japan to immigration I guess it's my day with the immigration charts while what you say is true, the less than 2 mln immigrants for a 120 mln country is nothing.

>>16871 >>16884 Also most of them are Chinese, Korean or Vietnamese.

>>16884 Of course, it's very little, but he did double the number of foreigners. And in this case, it was really his policy. What I wrote sounds like online schizo "${political figure} wants to replace us" stuff, but filling gaps in the workforce was one of his policies. And people in Japan know that it's not enough.

>>16877 russia stole belarus off PLC, which inherited it from Lithuania that conquered the area around 14th century. read a book zigger

>>16886 are you implying that these immigrants are culturally close to the Japanese? I mean they say that the Japanese are notoriously xenophobic >>16887 I didn't doubt your post on essence, Bernd. from the economic point of view you need those Philippino nurses. anyway, I wanted to go back to the more top-level question kinda going through the lines itt: with importing immigrants both politically sensible for the left and also economically judicious, developed countries have no other choice than immigration? or what can the politicians on the right offer? robots? new apartheid regime where immigrants are not allowed to vote?

>>16892 >back to the more top-level question Sorry to come back to Japan so quickly, but in Japan, it was the right that opened the floodgates. That's what the right can offer. Take care of the elderly, of families, of the industry. Those are core right-wing topics.

>>16882 > you concentrate too much on Belarus Why too much? It's your countryball and it's the most obvious example of late nation-inventing. > empire needs to make all the bad moves before understanding that other nations do have the right to exist and develop independently Imperialism isn't simply about gathering multiple territories under one rule. It's also about dividing and dismembering other countries. For example, Japanese created puppet state of Manchukuo on the territory of China during a war. Same way, Belarusian nationalism is an ideological product of Austrian Empire and later other powers. > France had its Algeria And... it's enough? Shouldn't France have its Aquitaine, its Burgundia, its Bretagne? It's different? And if it's different, do you think that Belarus is rather Algeria than Burgundia? An overseas foreign land, colonized and exploited by white devils, rather than just a region of a country. If yes, why? That's the key question here and you keep avoiding it. >>16889 Do you hear yourself? "Lithuania CONQUERED these territories and later Russia STOLE it back".

>>16894 oh, okay, I think I finally got your point. so your only question is are Belarusians different from Russians? surely we are. and don't get Lukashenka's policies fool you: once he's gone and Russia's support vanishes, we'll move away from you the next day.

>>16894 muscovy never owned belarus. is russian history class just some drunk schizophrenic rambling

>>16898 >'ll move away from you the next day. Aren't there Russian troops in Belarus?

>>16900 not that many now as they are busy dying in Ukrainian steppes

>>16901 Is that what Z stands for?

>>16902 not sure but I think it was: Z for west, V for east - vostok in Russian

>>16903 They had O for south and A for special forces, too.

>>16908 makes sense, as O is a modified Ю for south, A - airborne

>>16898 Sure, and the day after you'll restore the ancient Belarusian Wakanda, which used to be oppressed by the white devils. All you need to do is to larp as a colonized African tribe. Don't think that I hate west and freedom and democracy and love Putin and Lukashenko. I also understand why you want to join EU. Yet self-deception and hating Russians (which in your case is inevitably self-hate) won't make you a good favor in your goals. I got your position very well initially. > Any troubles you have or had don't have anything to do with you, they're the consequences of Russians keeping you down For example, people in Tver hate freedom, while people in Vitebsk (who may appear similar and are their literal relatives) actually love freedom, but people from Tver don't let them have it by supporting Lukashenko. Everything is so simple and convenient, so pleasant to think about. Don't succumb to these impulses, don't fall for political coomerism, it's not good for you.

go back to kohlchan, you can discuss russia all day there derailer

Awesome Kohl threada finntroll, good job.

>>16910 So they had A, Z, O, V. Clever. Imagine if they also had a coherent plan.

>>16768 >pro-American coup in Ukraine so what, shit happens. its Ukraine's matters anyway, it shouldnt concern r*ssia >stealing gas this was not a problem at all. the amounts both in physical volume and in money were negligible for r*ssia, i mean it was by far, by orders of magnitude cheaper to just ignore it than anything else including what r*ssia did, which costed it orders of magnitude more >Are you an emigré from Russia btw? yes, ofcourse i am a r*ssian, i am just on a tourist trip here. who else would care for those matters if not a r*ssian

>>16718 yes but with all due respect they couldnt do anything

Criticizing Trump is perfectly warranted. Some of his policies -- above all I'd place tariffs in this category -- are patently dumb. The problem is that a lot of the time Europeans who screech about him are in no position to criticize, let alone lecture arrogantly as they love to do. Is this continent prospering? Are our living standards improving? Are we developing an edge in science, industry, technology over the Americans? What about the military? Can we project force across the globe? Are our own leaders setting an example of competence to emulate, contrasting well against the chaos in Washington DC? But of course, that's a major part of why they shit on him. The German establishment especially. Do not look at Germany being in a recession, headed for a third consecutive year. Do not look at its industrial output plummeting. Do not look at its energy prices skyrocketing. Do not look at it's retarded denuclearization. Do not look how the singular obsession of Germany's ruling establishment, the Brandmauer, makes its political system incapable of getting anything of significance done except keeping one party out of power, sending it into a self-reinforcing doom spiral as it only feeds AfD's popularity (polling now at ~25%). Do not look at Europe being the dumping ground for the dregs of the third world. There's the Orange Man and his fascist antics. Look there. Just don't look at the ruinous mismanagement of your own country.

>>16929 FUCK CARS! Cities are made for Ppl and not for Cars! They built it around Cars for Centuries now and thats a Problem, no good Living is possible with this Shit not being minimized! I dont give a Shit about any Carbusinezz or "Automotive Industry" as its called in the shitty Screenshot you provided (Everything Twitter can go into the Chamber...). All Biznezzes including Oil are the worst that could have happened to the World, because most Oil comes from Sandniggercountries (except the Oil Great Murica is stealing obviously) and makes some islamic arrogant Psycho richer. This is one of the biggest Reasons why the World turned to Shit! (Just check the Sponsor of highvalue Soccerteams and who bought Gianni Infantilo and the whole FIFA)

Our PM is going to Meet Mr Trump today, they briefly saw each other at the UN but haven't had a proper meeting yet.

>>16933 Im really sad I havent been the Dentist who punched Trumps Teeth out in the most painful Way and put some shitty Ceramics in his fake Grimace.

>>16931 > Fuck cars! > Cities are made for Ppl and not for Cars!

>>16931 This so fucking much. The widespread use of cars and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race.

>>16927 > yes, ofcourse i am a r*ssian, I thought so because I expect native Montenegrins to act like Serbians, with overdone sympathy to Russians. And meanwhile it's a popular destination for political emigrés because it's legally easy to come there. To be honest, I had beliefs similar to yours for a while. Then I thought, fugg, why do I feel obliged to support freaks ruling Ukraine? It's so obviously wrong and cucked. Just in spite of Kremlin? Well, I don't need to, it's a false dichotomy. Oh, that was such a relief. Like when at first you say that Germany should have been concerned with Putin's 3-rd term and lack of free press instead of just buying Russian gas. And then that annulling elections in Ukraine is just a Ukrainian internal matter... It's contradictory, but it's also logical in its own way. Should countries treat each other as sovereign entities regardless of what happens in them? Most people don't have a strong opinion, it could be either way. Yet in the first case it would be cool if Germany somehow influenced Russian government to make it more democratic, because it could make our lives better. And in the second case lack of democracy in Ukraine shouldn't be our problem, because confronting their (and American) government would be bad for us. They could even steal some gas, if it's just a bit (was it just a bit btw?). While this way of thinking is a natural pursuit of your best interests, it's also flawed: you lie to yourself to pursuit your interests, but then because of these lies you stop understanding what your interests are. At first you just wanted your country to be free, rich and peaceful. And later you end up as self-hating "Jewish queer for Palestine".

>>16946 beisedu mods

>They really hate AfD, Trump, and Putin. So do I. The only people I know who don't are either very dumb or edgelords, Oftentimes both.

>>16951 It's more important if you hate them as part of hating politicians and political parties in general or if you only hate them because they're the other team.

>>16958 You mean that hating all politicians and political parties is the way to go? That's pretty retarded though. Not all political parties and anctors are equal, so they shouldn't be hated equally.

>>16961 >Not all political parties and anctors are equal, so they shouldn't be hated equally. Some shit smells worse than other shit, but it's all shit in the end.

>>16948 Cars can be practical, but everybody who owns one should also provide for a parking space for his car, not use public roads. I don't buy a horse and expect the state to house it in a stable.

>>16981 That's why I said the widespread use of cars. If we'd live like in North Korea where only 1 in 10000 owns a car, there wouldn't be any problems. But in Germany some households even have multiple cars, it's fucking sick.

>>16982 >But in Germany some households even have multiple cars, it's fucking sick. Make public transport better, don't force people to commute hundred(s of) kilometer for a job that barely pays for necessities, make cities pay extra taxes for every car within city limits and every roof not fitted with a solar array or wind turbine.

>>16982 I know, and especially in cities there's no more space for that crap. I remember in the 80s roads weren't so clogged. Fewer cars and they were smaller too. We could even play on the streets and only had to move out of the way occasionally.

German news is very boring American news is very entertaining Journalists need their COVID

>>16985 Lol, I meant to write clicks not COVID

>>16983 >don't force people to commute hundred(s of) kilometer for a job Who's forcing you, friend? Two jobs ago, I moved because my commute was too long. Then, I found a job near my new place, to keep the commute short. Is that illegal in Germany?

>>17001 Nobody is moving because the rents are too damn high and nobody builds new living space because the regulations are insane. The rich are soaking up all the houses just like they hoard all the financial security.

>>17001 >YEAH BRO JUST MOVE IT'S EASY If you're a khhv maybe

>>16985 American news is entertaining because its very dumbed down.

>>16949 >While this way of thinking is a natural pursuit of your best interests, it's also flawed: you lie to yourself to pursuit your interests i dont understand where the lie is. i dont see any lie

>>16949 >To be honest, I had beliefs similar to yours for a while. >Then I thought... Oh, that was such a relief. this is very very bad. very bad! if you change your beliefs and life becomes easier, you are relieved, something good happens, your life improves - this is very very bad, a very bad sign, extremely bad and dangerous. this means you just lied to yourself and adapted your beliefs to a situation to have an easier life and you no longer operate on unbiased logic and facts. and that is very dangerous, just like driving drunk vs driving sober - you might suddenly hit a lamp post which you thought was more to the side than it is or which you didnt even see completely your beliefs should make your life as miserable as possible. the more miserable your life gets due to your beliefs - means the more unbiased and fact based your beliefs are

>>17242 >your beliefs should make your life as miserable as possible. What happens if life around you changes and your beliefs suddenly make it easier? Would you change them then just to have a miserable life again?

>>17242 I agree, sweet lies are dangerous. I even wrote about it earlier in this thread in a bit different context and did it in such an awful mentoring tone, that I probably achieved the opposite result. Good analogy with driving drunk. However, while truth is usually harsh, it's not necessary the worst thing imaginable as you put it. And lies aren't always sweet. Flagellants are religious fanatics rather than sober people. Depressive people who claim to be worthless losers without solid reasons aren't right either, they just have mental condition. Also dealing with truth is pleasant in a way that it's not self-contradictory, you can simply rely on it. Big part of that relief was liberation from the need to engage in mental gymnastics.

Mr Albanese and Mr Trump met. The meeting went fairly well, now that we are allied with Papua New Guniea the US knows it has to be careful with us and that it has to do what we want.

>>16848 Yes, I don't get why they do that, they amplify everything he says or does. If they hate him why they give him a speaking stage like this? They also seem like the boy who cried wolf, "now things will derail!!" and they said this so many times it is now meaningless.

>>16929 When Trump decided to "punish" Brazil for its Brics alignment, all these newspapers criticized him, when there wasn't a single voice that saw what he did as intelligent or warranted. Which for me is quite surprising, it seemed to me a very intelligent move by trump and in fact an attitude that should have come from the American foreign policy way before.

>>16894 >Belarusian nationalism is an ideological product of Austrian Empire >Austrian And you slept during history lesson in highschool insted of learning? Just like other Russians ? If that's was about Ukraine i've understand it, but Belarus?

Why are u watchinh Michel TV

>Putin, AfD, Trump All reactionary rightwing shitheads at once. Why there is no Orban and that Polish fuck President from PiS ?

>>16929 Germany could've been the world's no. 1 manufacturer for solar-related goods, but Altmaier destroyed that industry and essentially opened the floodgates for China to take it all over. And now look at China, building more solar capacity in a week or even less than any new coal plant (building time: decade) would bring. And for what purpose? Gas lobbyism. Did the supposedly neutral, supposedly controlling public broadcasting mention that at all during that industrial genocide? No. But cars, oh no my cars! The manufacturers who have had two decades or more to think and plan about that stuff, seeing that the customers in their own country do vote for these weird tree huggers.

>>17321 It's funny, if you just switch cars and solar and use Habeck instead of Altmaier you could make this exact post as someone from the other side.

>>16931 >>16948 Terminally retarded cyclists detected. Powered vehicles that allow for the easy transportation of goods over longer distances are THE positive driving force behind economic growth.

>>17001 Not every country is as piss small as Ueliland, Jugo Also: >Making your job decide where you live. Literal serf

>>17330 >Powered vehicles that allow for the easy transportation of goods over longer distances Choo choo motherfucker

>>16982 >Multiple cars, how dare they It's funny that this post alone tells me you are single without kids, under 40 and are either a Beamtenarsch, Arbeitslos or working in some other environment where time and efficiency are of no concern

>>17333 >It's funny that this post alone tells me you are single without kids Let me stop you right there. Are you aware that you're posting on Krautchan and not Facebook?

>>17332 Ah, yes, the famous flexibility of train lines that allows for easy transportation of goods to almost every place in and outside of a city... Retard

>>17334 And are you aware that you are posting indeed on Krautchan and not Wizardchan or R9k where this "Imageboard users are kissless permavirgins well into their 50s" originated from? In any case, you have to go back

>>17335 You're literally retarded if you think that freight trains are inferior to cars lmao. I have nothing more to add here. Regarding your second comment, back where, Keinbernd? You're the Kein.

>>17337 If you genuinely think that trains and cars cover the same utility brackets for goods to be delivered, you need to finish your primary school education, Yence

>>17337 >Where 4chan obv. And Yugoslavia

>>17340 >Yugoslavia This tells me what I guessed. You probably came here today and think this is Kohl. Did you enter .org instead of .net by accident?

>>17332 >choo choo motherfucker Fuck yeah! Choo choo you too.

>>17341 Fuck off already, you obnoxious shitposter.

It's sad to see people fighting like this in the Trump thread...

>>17344 Heh

>>17341 I'll take that as a white flag from you, post-winnenden neukanker. That you neither reacted nor understood "yence" was already a surefire sign, Jugo.

>>17346 Wasn't yence a cancerous newfag thing in late KC? 2014 or 2015 earliest. That's around the time I stopped lurking. I honestly don't remember what that's supposed to mean. I stopped caring when the whole Ronny and Sören bullshit started. Which is why I like this new place that swiftly bans this kind of shit. My guess would be that Jens was not about politics. Was it a virgin? Or a non-virgin? But that was stuff like Busfahrer or Schweizer (kek)

>>17347 >Claiming to not know Yence/Jens but freely use other Busfahrer-adjacent memes like "kein" as somebody who supposedly stopped lurking 11 years ago. Doesn't check out, especially since it's not Ernst lingo (neither top, nor net, nor org or even Lauerbrett).

>>17347 >Banning Ronny and Sören rvss kankee Yes, this is indeed a major plus point on this board

>>17345 Great movie!

>>17349 Never was an Ernst. I disliked it back in 2010 or whenever it launched, but when they said they're closing down recently, I checked it out. Seemed like here, only a bit slower. Also, I'm not excluding the possibility that I forgot about Jens/Yence, but my money would be with it becoming a meme after the Keinbernd->Busfahrer/Fleischer/Schweizer wordfilter. So, are you going to enlighten me or are you just being a dick about it?

>>17353 >Also, I'm not excluding the possibility that I forgot about Jens/Yence, but my money would be with it becoming a meme after the Keinbernd->Busfahrer/Fleischer/Schweizer wordfilter Iirc it was around the same time, when suddenly "people" who claimed some kind of interpretive authority about who is a Bernd and who isn't started becoming very vocal. What only few people know is that Keinbernds have built KC.

>>17356 >What only few people know is that Keinbernds have built KC. I'm aware and also guilty of it you know, as a Schweizer, but you shut up about it and you don't insult people as virgins etc. :3

>>17358 As I said, this was all in the wake of a bunch of people thinking you can't be a true Bernd if you're a social failure virgin who watches animu, and naturally, two fronts formed.

>>17284 I liked history in school and university (though I majored in STEM). Btw I have also read Belarusian and Ukrainian textbooks, just out of curiosity. I recommend you to do it as well, because even if you do it with sympathetic prejudice (as I did back then), you'll still realize that the narrative is way too fantastic to believe in and moreover too malevolent to pretend to believe in.

>>17381 >Btw I have also read Belarusian and Ukrainian textbooks, just out of curiosity >Their national myth is stupid >Our is not Classic >Belarus was created by AUSTRIAN IMPERIALISM >Retranslate russian nationalistic pseudohistorical myth >Also do if wrong I think you want to say that Belarussian People Republic was created with help from Germans, not the Austrians. BNR and Ukrainian Hetmanate was created by German Empire, but roots on which they based their puppet states was there long ago before WWI

>>17426 Yes, not all myths are created equal. Even among fiction some stories are better than others: more meaningful, more logical, kinder. However national myths usually aren't completely fictional, they may exaggerate and omit certain things, but they should roughly be based on reality. Believable for an average citizen and believable in key parts for an informed citizen. Also some nations need myths more than others. Algerian doesn't need explanation of how he is not French. He just objectively has different language, different faith and his family and other socials ties are among the same Algerians. Even if he tries to adopt French identity, he looks different and he'll constantly face Frenchmen not accepting him as their own. why he isn't Tunisian is a harder question though Meanwhile Burgundian speaks French, has faith and lifestyle are similar to other Frenchmen, he could easily have relatives in Marcel or Paris. You can look at each aspect and decide, which one is the Belarusian case. I guess many Belarusian nationalists understand what I say. They just think "we need Lithuanian myth to distance ourselves from Russian Federation and to have comfy state rich in EU". But blatant lies, absurd LARP and empty accusations of fellows of centuries long genocide are contrary to developed lawful democratic state. If people of Belarus are smart, they won't believe it. If they are moral, they won't pretend to believe it. And if they're free, they won't hide it. Moreover, European leaders won't have serious busyness with greedy traitors, it's not in their interests objectively. For spreading "Lithuanian" myth and creating a separate Belarusian nation, it's required to have white-red-white dictator, three times worse than Lukashenko, who will close borders and beat it into people, together with "Belarusian language". After couple of generations Belarusian nation will be created. Is it worth it though? > russian nationalistic pseudohistorical myth > BNR and Ukrainian Hetmanate was created by German Empire Germany and Austria were allies during that period of time. "Roots on which they based their puppet states", which you mention were developed by the same imperial apparatus. Organisations like USAID weren't invented yesterday, they have a long history. Can a romantic teenager in Vitebsk wake up and come up with idea "my dialect is actually a separate language and it was spoken in ancient Wakanda of 14-th century Lithuania" without being paid by Austrians? Sure. But he gets such ideas from booklets (written by whom? spread by whom? financed by whom?).

>>17459 >However national myths usually aren't completely fictional, Speak for yourself. I don't think anyone believes William Tell was a historical figure.

>>17462 The average retard does. Winkelried was real though.

>>16958 I don't care about teams, I care about policy and both Trump's and AfD's (proposed) policies are maximally retarded. The whole presidency feels like some 4chan edgelord wants to "troll the libs" instead of running a country. AfD is just funded by Russia to destabilize, it's common knowledge by now. Russia floods Europe with migrants AND stokes extrimist parties on both sides, only an utter retard doesn't see through this (so most NPCs, useful chuds on imageboards that consume ""alternative media"" included). Why is this thread even still here, its intent to bring kohl tier rvss to /int/ is obvious.

>>17467 >Russia floods Europe with migrants AND stokes extrimist parties on both sides One of countries fundamental responsibilities is that it should control its borders, which means control of who goes in and out. If Russia can "flood" your country with foreigners sans an outright invasion and military occupation, that's entirely the fault of your country and your government for being inept failures, not Russia for taking advantage of your ineptitude to advance its own interests. <Poor Europe! Damn that Putin forcing us to take in Afghans and put them in taxpayer-funded housing. We don't have agency at all, just victims of external forces. Retarded victim mentality. Ukrainians have every right to complain about orks colonizing their lands, but Germans don't. Anyone who thinks like this doesn't deserve sovereignty nor self-rule because evidently agency is a foreign concept to them.