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Mp3 ripped from YT.

For Download Bernd prefers flac. With this Bernd can convert it to whatever he needs. Mostly mp3 and ogg, because that is wat most players can play. When there is no flac Bernd tries to get high bitrate ogg. Well, sometimes you just don't have a choice. So there are also 128kbit mp3s in Bernds library.

i stream from youtube

>>17103 Noooooo, there's no need to convert Berndie, the AAC and OPUS audio stream YouTube offers are already good on its own. >>17104 How big is your library? >>17105 You never download music? What about the stuff that isn't on YouTube?

>>17103 Youtube does not have mp3. They encode anything to aac. So if you "rip" it from youtube in mp3, you are actually downloading it in aac and converting it to mp3. That degrades the quality more than downloading and keeping directly the aac.

>>17106 But how can I listen to it on my phone then? I don't need me no Opus or AAC. Just go to the yt downloader webzone, enter the link and get mp3, simple as.

>>17107 >They encode anything to aac. Not true, in most cases they also offer opus audio as can be seen through yt-dlp. >>17108 Your phone supports both of those codecs, you don't need mp3.

>>17106 33236 Files 187GB ---of wich--- 25460 ogg 5122 mp3 2565 flac 69 m4a 20 wma

.flv

I only use opus.

>>17122 But why no opussy?

whatever comes out of spotify.

>>17125 Do you use their new Lossless feature?

>>17126 No. I'm not an Audioschnösel. Also I don't hear very well because of listening too much loud music in my youth.

>>17123 Because Bernd.

FLAC. I even ripped all my Black Metal demo rapes to FLAC. Size is no problem these days.

>>17130 tapes, I meant tapes.

>>17130 >Black Metal demo rapes

>>17130 Maybe not on your computer, but if you want to have your library on the phone file size still matters.

>>17138 Phones have 128gb and more these days. That's plenty space for FLACs, even 64GB...

>>17096 192-320 kbps mp3 from torrents.

>>17139 My library in flac would be something like 2TB.

>>17173 And thats like 1 album.

>>17139 >That's plenty space for FLAC But for what purpose? Why?

>>17173 Why would you need your whole library on the phone? >>17196 To not have the hassle of converting.

>>17197 What converting, Bernd? It's music files, you store them and listen them, not convert them.

>>17198 I don't know how it is for other Bernds, but I get my music from torrents in FLAC, then I'd have to convert it to other lossy formats to use on other devices.

>>17200 Why not just download mp3 and not waste time on converting?

>>17196 ROFL LITERALLY ME. Still using the 200 Schilling soundboxes from 2001.

>>17202 Multiple reasons: some music isn't available as mp3, only in FLAC. Also to be future proof: as FLAC is lossless, I will always be able to encode from it to the best lossy codec that is the hot shit right now, so if in two years some much more efficient codec would drop I could just use the lossless source, transcoding from lossy to lossy like I would have to do with mp3 is bad. And third, it's not always clear how the mp3 were encoded/created that ones downloads, whether the best settings and encoder were used etc., I prefer to do it myself, because then I know what I get.

>>17200 I have bad news for you: if your devices can't play FLAC, they are probably pieces of shit.

Opus, it's like alien technology from the future how good it is. Though, I'm not sure if it's an acquired taste, if there are moderate artifacts, I find the ones from the MPEG family (MP3 and AAC) family the least objectionable. Vorbis seems to make the sound kind of dry and dull when it's not transparent. I'm not sure what Opus artifacts sound like because that requires seriously low bitrate :3

Wave from cd-rips or flac dls converted to wave. Fiddle with sound, fade outs, etc until happy. Then convert end product to mp3 320 constant for multi-device compatability. * classical piano and other reverb-needy pieces stay in wave. t. desktop/mp3 player

>>17200 Which device doesn't play FLAC? Phones do (Android at least), most portable players do (I use a Cowon btw.) and every computer does. Maybe the car stereo?

>>17220 We were in a discussion about storage, which is why some Bernds avoid FLAC, its not about compatibility

>>17222 Why would one need his whole library on a portable device? It's like installing 1000 games on Steam.

mp3s I think this whole Spiel about audio formats and shit is just a waste of time and it's the epitome of diminishing returns

Fight me, but I left my harddrives full of ripped mp3s from my youth in a dry closet for years and nowadays 100% stream stuff from Spotify. My musical taste is obscure, but not obscure enough to not be hosted by the service. When it comes to formats, Bernd, who is a hobby musician and festival enthusiast for a good while (don't wanna brag, but neither I want to hear "You're just an NPC fuck off) found that .ogg ist nearly indistinguishable from .wave/.flac at ~192kbps. Zero difference. Try it out yourself. Feed two channels into Audacity with different codes, switch phases and listen to the difference. If the tiny hiss you hear which is not even distinguishable is the proof that only wave is the true format, seek help.

>>17197 >Why would you need your whole library on the phone? To have options. I like to be able to listen to whatever I feel like in the moment.

>>17224 That’s like every streaming service works. The appeal is that you can access any track no matter how obscure any moment you want. If you want to replicate that with local files, you need a big library.

>>17243 Thx! I gave up on ogg early on, mostly due to playback issues with downloaded yt ogg (opus) videos. But it looks like the better format choice. >OGG offers better sound quality at similar bitrates and is a free, open-source format, while MP3 is a proprietary format with universal compatibility but lower audio quality and potential licensing issues. For a smaller file size with comparable quality, OGG is often the better choice if your device supports it; MP3's main advantage is its widespread support across nearly all media players.

>>17235 The importance of audio formats and bitrates also depends on what type of music you're listening too. If it's modern 'wall of sound' music, you are right; the difference between a 320 mp3 and a 128 is barely noticeable. But if it is quieter music with a lot of empty space, you will notice. Compression encoding has the same result as compression effects for drums in recordings: the reverb and slow fade are lost, and become harsh and fast cuts. For example, a slow classical piano piece will sound like someone mashing the keys.

>>17319 >no matter how obscure Doubt. Do they have stuff that was only released on a few 7" EPs?

>>17409 It entirely depends on the band of course, nowadays most obscure artists put their music on streaming, of course streaming doesn’t have all obscure music

>Which is your preferred audio codec to listening back to music? wav of course. has no compression and is playable on a computer with potato computing power.

>>18932 But it's huuuuuuge

>>17243 The user interface of Spotify is difficult yet crippled, that alone would be reason for me not to use it. A friend who works in software told me that Spotify was the object of many jokes for his UX designer coworkers.

>>18932 >>18934 WAV is also terrible for metadata