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de Bernd 2025-12-11 10:22:00 No. 30748
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Can I just use any router I want (over the DSL port) or do I have to contact my ISP and ask them? What router do you use, Bernd?
de Bernd 2025-12-11 10:59:39 No. 30765
In theory most routers should work. You need the login data from your provider which I'm sure you have. I was using the provided O2 router for many years and switched to a tp-link which seems way more stable and has a good reach.
de Bernd 2025-12-11 11:02:51 No. 30766
>>30765 >tp-link Which model?
de Bernd 2025-12-11 11:31:19 No. 30790
>>30786 The benefit being?
de Bernd 2025-12-11 11:34:10 No. 30792
Why not use your own router behind the ISP router? I use that since forever and have no problems at all. All IOT stuff is in the ISP net and only PCs and mobiles are in my private net.
de Bernd 2025-12-11 11:37:37 No. 30797
>>30790 I separate the things that get updates and are important to me from the the things that will never get updated. So i have a firewall against my ISP and all IOT devices.
de Bernd 2025-12-11 11:37:53 No. 30798
>>30792 I don't have IOT devices. So what benefit could it possibly bring?
by Bernd 2025-12-11 11:42:51 No. 30800
It depends on your ISP, you may get worse support if you connect your own hardware even if you can extract the login. Often you can just switch the ISP-provided box to modem mode (or whatever it's called) and put your own router behind that and then everybody is happy. >>30792 you get double NAT if you set it up wrong.
de Bernd 2025-12-11 11:46:31 No. 30802
>>30798 >So what benefit could it possibly bring? If you trust your provider and have no IOT devices than i can see no advantage of this constellation.
fi Bernd 2025-12-11 12:21:10 No. 30812
I bought some Cudy router for like 50€ because I wanted a router with OpenWrt firmware. I don't think I ever flashed it with OpenWrt firmware though.
de Bernd 2025-12-11 12:21:40 No. 30813
>>30812 Is there any legitimate reason to use openwrt or is it just nerd shit?
fi Bernd 2025-12-11 12:22:39 No. 30815
>>30813 no idea. my reasoning was purely nerd shit, but like with most hobby attempts it never went anywhere
de Bernd 2025-12-11 13:05:23 No. 30835
>>30792 That uses more energy. Only makes sense if you use some kind of general-purpose computer (old PC, Raspberry Pi, etc) that doesn't speak DSL as your secondary router. If your secondary router has a DSL port, just remove the ISP router. DSL is standardized, it should work. If your secondary router is not recent enough to support whatever DSL standard your ISP has, it's probably a bit crap anyway (no 5 GHz WLAN, no Gigabit(+) ethernet).
de Bernd 2025-12-11 13:08:17 No. 30836
>>30813 A lot more features, for example you could run an adblocker (DNS and IP address based) on it or run a VPN server so you can VPN into your home network. I stopped running an old PC as router when I got my first Fritzbox because these are frankly pretty gud and full-featured. (OK, not slightly subversive shit like adblockers, but uBlock Origin in the browser works fine)
de Bernd 2025-12-11 13:09:49 No. 30838
>>30836 Adblocker would indeed be nice. Is it as powerful as the built-in filter lists in uBlock, Adguard etc.
de Bernd 2025-12-11 14:00:56 No. 30869
>>30838 >Is it as powerful Probably not, it doesn't have as much context for decisions as an adblocker in the browser. But it can also block ads for things without "native" adblocker support, e.g. ad-infested Android gayms.
de Bernd 2025-12-11 14:03:18 No. 30870
>>30869 Yeah, I would like it very much for my Apple TV to watch YouTube or Prime Video without ads.
lv Bernd 2025-12-11 19:08:47 No. 30934
I nerded out and installed openwrt on my access point and set up WoL and netbooting (netbooting over wifi even) and had about 10 different linux distributiopns I could boot up on demand until I lost interest and never did anything with it ever again.