/int/ - International

This is not a love song. This is not a love song. I don't sing my mother tongue. No, this is not a love song.

No, this must be an extremely sad life. I see such people on IBs sometimes that say they only read English books and consume English content. English is okay as a lingua Franca, but the relationship one has to his native tongue is special and should be cherished. The rapid anglicization of the world is a virus, English infected all languages and cultures. I’m not saying English is bad per se, but I hate its pervasive influence on other languages, especially modern German. I try to reduce English content to a minimum and only read books in German, because I myself noticed that the feel for my native tongue gets worse if I consume too much English stuff (sometimes I’d forget German words etc). Also I love the German language, English will never be that sacred for me. God help any Bernd who answers yes to OPs thread.

>>8494 This I try to use in daily-language german words for english ones, when there is an alternative. German sounds more beautiful and concret in my ear.

>>8495 I was once a member of Verein Deutsche Sprache. r8

I have been speaking English at work for the last 10 years or so. German movies and TV series are trash and Swiss ones are even worse. A lot of books I read are in English. I'm pretty fluent in English, I can have deep conversations and friendships, but even after all this time, I'm far more fluent in German than in English. Maybe if I lived abroad for a few years without much contact to German-speakers.

<native tongue is English Do you want my opinion?

>>8494 >>8498 Languages like German and French are better positioned to resist the consequences of globalized information flows due to relatively large number of speakers and resulting larger media ecosystems that better insulate against foreign ones. They also benefit from higher quality due to a larger pool of talent to draw from, which lets them keep somewhat competitive. Both also sit atop a rich trove of scholarship, especially historical, that sometimes doesn't have English translations. All of that allows for a more balanced media and literature diet. About 3 months ago, one Tunisian on X posted a TikTok of some girl from his country making culinary videos. Her audience was mostly Tunisian and not foreign, yet her speech was about a 50/50 mix of English and Arabic. Of course it can be inferred that she belongs to an urban and highly educated milieu and thus not representative of Tunisian society as a whole, but still, it gives you the idea of how far this trend can progress in certain corners. Smaller languages, I believe, will have a very rough time in this century. There is no Lithuanian or Slovak social network, nor a Libgen or Anna's Archive. Lots of TV programming will be subbed over English ones. Video games, even if they're made by natives, will aim for an international audience because that's the only way to make money and in many cases won't even feature their own language support. Worsening demographic trends will accelerate this. For youth growing up with computers and mobile phones at disposal 24/7 in these countries, it will require a conscious effort for native language fluency not to atrophy. Tragedy, obviously, but it's hard to see a way out of it. >>8510 I can't stop you from posting.

>>8478 i'm bad in both english and native language

>>8518 The 11th Montenegrin commandment.

>>8517 >and resulting larger media ecosystems that better insulate against foreign ones. They also benefit from higher quality due to a larger pool of talent to draw from, which lets them keep somewhat competitive. As you see (by reality (and the existing mainstream media) that's a joke. And even the best of the german alternative media journalists use research from english speaking researchers since often those are the only sources for some topics.

>>8517 The Tunisian's speak Arabic which is a language spoken by far more people than German is and they do also have their own media sphere. It could be like Japanese where they have a lot of English loan words but don't actually speak English. Culture is also important in this, Germany has a bigger population and Economy than France but is more influenced by English media and less insulated than France. Because the French are arrogant and most of them don't speak English or even want to speak English. Germany also makes games targeted towards English speaking markets, English is the biggest language on earth so everybody will aside from Japan who while they do often have English releases they don't always. I think France can be a bit like that too sometimes, I don't think the Wakfu game got an English release.

The biggest board here is in English, despite most (but not all) posters being German-speaking. I think that's similar to games being released in English. Many younger people speak English well enough to easily switch and by doing so, you reach a wider audience. Fun anecdote from old KC before /int/: Most of the weird language quirks on old /b/ were only understandable if you spoke English. Some went over my 17-year-old head back then.

>>8523 However bad it is in your case, it's usually significantly worse for a country with, say, 8 million people instead of your 80 (plus Switzerland and Austria) >>8538 >It could be like Japanese where they have a lot of English loan words but don't actually speak English. It wasn't anglicisms. I know Japanese have them, but the Tunisian's case was very different, and typically Tunisian Arabic includes more French loan words than English AFAIK. I'd post it if I had it but you're just gonna have to "trust me bro". >Culture is also important in this, Germany has a bigger population and Economy than France but is more influenced by English media and less insulated than France. Because the French are arrogant and most of them don't speak English or even want to speak English. You're right that other factors are at work and that culture is a big one. >The Tunisian's speak Arabic which is a language spoken by far more people than German is and they do also have their own media sphere The cultural output of the Arabic world is abysmal outside of Islamic matters, so it's not surprising that a seemingly non-religious girl would gravitate to the global monoculture. Even Turks run laps around Arabs in this regard, like with their TV drama shows. >>8544 >Most of the weird language quirks on old /b/ were only understandable if you spoke English. Do you remember any? I've been on old /int/ but the rest of KC mostly remained an enigma to me even back then.

>>8659 A simple one, but it was the first that came to mind: Lüfterjunge. Ventilator boy. Or fan boy, but purposefully using the wrong etymology. A lot of KC German was actually just English puns.

>>8519 He’s Russian expat

>>8660 Classic German humor.