/int/ - Poland finally moved from splendid isolation to decisive action Yet few days ago they were unable to detect drones and missiles hitting untouchable NATO territory and random mushroom-pickers and cyclists had to do this. Now, they proudly announce they s

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Bernd 2025-09-10 08:18:08 Nr. 9591

Poland finally moved from splendid isolation to decisive action Yet few days ago they were unable to detect drones and missiles hitting untouchable NATO territory and random mushroom-pickers and cyclists had to do this. Now, they proudly announce they supposedly "neutralize" objects breaking Article Five of mighty NATO. I would like to see some videos of neutralisation and photos of shot down objects too, otherwise i reserve a right of doubt for myself. My theory is that all these hostile objects hit Bolanda thats why regime informed local populations that they should contact them if they find some debris. Reminder that Poland pays $15k for every single one out of 10k GI Joes rotationally stationed here. If the US of A is a good ally and takes its obligations seriously, Bolanda should give MANPADS to every one of them and send them on eastern-northern border to catch drones. MANPADS is actually the only thing that Polish MIC produces from A to Z and that US-American MIC cant produce anymore in a mass way due to loss of competency. I would also send all Polish pierdziochy ("online fighters" spamming Internet with mainstream pro-war/pro-syatem/anti-russian propaganda) to defend the country they supposedly love so much. You think its going to happen? I think it wont Fun fact: FDI in Bolanda in 2024 fell down by 60% compared to 2023 mostly because of geopolitical instability, and now regime must finally pretend it is doing something because FDI for 2025 are even lower

Bernd 2025-09-10 10:29:33 Nr. 9598

>Poland activates NATO Article 4 to consult allies after Russian drone incursion https://www.euronews.com/2025/09/10/poland-activates-nato-article-4-to-consult-allies-after-russian-drone-incursion I hope the most for fruitful consultations with Slovakia and Hungary

Bernd 2025-09-10 10:52:49 Nr. 9599

>>9598 Bolanda is "silna w sojuszach" (strong in alliances) according to official regime propaganda. We will see now how much these alliancies are worth. Average Polish patriot humbly expects 24h/day AWACS/strategic bomber patrols over its territory, growing US-American contingent from 10k to 50k. Changing US military presence from rotational to permanent one. Moving all US troops from cosy whorehouse-environment in Western Poland to rough environment of Polish borders with Ukraine/Belarus/Russia so they couldnt escape to Germany/Ramstein in first hours of escalation. I am sure all these expectations will be met

Bernd 2025-09-10 11:17:34 Nr. 9603

Ukrainians make thousands of tiktok videos currently in which they say that Poland became a sphere of war just like Ukraine and they escape further in Western direction PENIS Pierdziochy should stop them. Polish economy wont survive without their priceless contribution, after all. I hear for last 3 years that Ukrainians defend Poland from Russia and keep Polish economy going.

Bernd 2025-09-10 11:18:55 Nr. 9604

moved from splendid isolation to decisive action Ah,yes, looks like they move from: National Pride -> Overconfidence

Bernd 2025-09-10 11:40:59 Nr. 9605

"Covid experts" who were coercing Polish population into murderous gene therapy injections in 2020/2022 period while scaremongering with "super-deadly virus" are now persuading the poisoned population to "fight Russian trolls" by staying calm. Calmness is the most important now. Calmness and patriotic unity around regime and all its decisions.

Bernd 2025-09-10 11:45:40 Nr. 9606

Nothing is going to happen....

Bernd 2025-09-10 11:46:07 Nr. 9607

>>9605 Are you the Antivaxx-Schizo from Kohl?

Bernd 2025-09-10 12:04:58 Nr. 9608

SÄGE!

Covid isn't real.

Bernd 2025-09-10 12:11:23 Nr. 9610

>>9607 Seems like it. I remember a random antivaxx outburst from a Polandball on here before. Also, am I missing something or did the drone have absolutely nothing to do with vaccines?

Bernd 2025-09-10 12:13:15 Nr. 9611

> decisive action means shooting down drones that enter your airspace which is a good thing mind you but merely a regularburger.

Bernd 2025-09-10 12:21:21 Nr. 9612

LMAO, looks like the Ukraine is at it again. FYI, the range of this thing is nowhere nearly enough to reach from Russia to Poland.

Bernd 2025-09-10 12:24:09 Nr. 9613

>>9612 >the range of this thing is nowhere nearly enough to reach from Russia to Poland. The range of a thrown rock is enough to reach from Russia to Poland. They share a border. Quite a long one if you include Belarus which might allow Russia to launch drones from their territory.

Bernd 2025-09-10 12:45:44 Nr. 9614

>>9613 Russia does not launch drone attacks from Kaliningrad, because it can not use NATO airspace. Russia also does not launch drone attacks from Belarus, as proven by every single drone flight path map posted by the Ukrainian regime itself. The drones fell somewhere near this town, from what I gather, which is conveniently 300 km from Lvov and absolutely nowhere close enough to Russian border with the Ukraine for that particular drone type to ever have a chance to reach it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opoczno The Ukraine is at it again.

Bernd 2025-09-10 12:51:10 Nr. 9615

>>9614 What difference does it make for Bolanda? It could be Russian/Ukrainian/Belarusian/Lithuanian or even Israeli drones. It depends on current policy of Polish regime to choose one option out of this spectrum to push narrative. They gonna choose Russian option i guess, but it will change nothing at all for Bolanda. Its territory would be increasingly attacked in various ways with mysterious objects and by thousands acts of sabotages a year performed by Ukrainian diaspora. It is just a new reality. It is high time for "online patriots" to glue their asses off of gaming chairs and joining Polish armed forces and police/gendarmerie units as well as units of territorial defence. "Online patriots" can be easily replaced by LLM algorithms in making propaganda in Internet but nobody can replace Poles on their real-life field defence positions

Bernd 2025-09-10 12:56:29 Nr. 9617

>>9615 >but nobody can replace Poles on their real-life field defence positions I often wonder about that. It should be possible to mount a weapon system on an AI controlled mount and have AI located and recognise things of interest to then shoot them, particularly on front lines like those in Ukraine where the fronts are in open fields with no civilians around.

Bernd 2025-09-10 12:59:31 Nr. 9618

>>9615 Provocation, obviously. Recently Poland was beginning to behave way too independent for the Ukraine's regime taste, so they conjure this provocation to affect the narrative within Poland and shift it more towards opposing Russia, and thus supporting the Ukrainian regime.

Bernd 2025-09-10 13:04:36 Nr. 9619

>>9612 >nowhere nearly enough Gerbera goes 600km. Quite plausible if launched from Russia through BY airspace, even more plausible if started from BY.

Bernd 2025-09-10 13:14:14 Nr. 9620

>>9619 Except, of course, for the fact that drones flew much further into Poland than that point on the border that you've arbitrarily chosen. And for the fact that Russia does not launch drone attacks from Belarus.

Bernd 2025-09-10 13:27:28 Nr. 9621

>>9620 They didn't even publish which drone model it is, either because they don't know yet, or because it's the military and they don't publish everything. So, we don't know the range. And even if we know the model, everything we know is just estimates which comes from either of the warring states and isn't reliable. It could be anything from >Trust me, tovarich, it can fly 100,000 km and if the supreme leader wants it to fly 200,000 km then it can do that too via >lololol zigger drones can't even fly 50m or even >zomg everyone please be scared, those drones could come to your houses and rape your daughters, gibe military aid pl0x We don't have facts, and a discussion without facts is pointless.

Bernd 2025-09-10 13:30:09 Nr. 9622

>>9621 >They didn't even publish which drone model it is Oh, you're just clueless and upset. Didn't read the rest of your clueless post, please inform yourself and uphold serious discussion, or relocate yourself back to kohl. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerbera_(drone)

Bernd 2025-09-10 13:31:52 Nr. 9623

>>9620 I've also not seen a lot of drone attacks launched from BY but occam's razor suggests that at least the ones found in central Poland were launched from BY rather than UA or RU. Especially if these are decoys anyway. (Plus I don't know the type of all of these but the one that went down near Mniszków was supposedly a Gerbera)

Bernd 2025-09-10 13:35:59 Nr. 9624

>>9610 >am I missing something or did the drone have absolutely nothing to do with vaccines? Schizos will use any thread to talk about their topic. Antivaxxer does it, so does a womanhating Incel or a jew-blaming conspiracy theorist.

Bernd 2025-09-10 13:37:01 Nr. 9625

>>9622 >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerbera_(drone) Maybe I missed that, but I haven't seen any reports that it was one of these. And even if it was, we don't know the actual range. We only know propaganda numbers from either side of the war. It's not a Volkswagen where we know exactly how much NOx they emit.

Bernd 2025-09-10 13:38:11 Nr. 9627

>>9621 >>9625 > They didn't even publish which drone model it is Some were identified from pictures. We don't know all of them of course. https://x.com/Osinttechnical/status/1965679809205600587 https://x.com/WarNewsPL1/status/1965672738552779251 https://www.rmf24.pl/raporty/raport-rosyjskie-drony-nad-polska/news-dron-znaleziony-w-lodzkiem-to-prawie-300-km-od-granicy,nId,8019161 In general you have to go on twitter to find the good deets usually.

Bernd 2025-09-10 13:43:01 Nr. 9629

>>9623 Well, that's the point. So far I've only seen pictures of Gerbera, and the fact that it was found in central Poland despite its limited range suggests that it's a provocation by the Ukrainian regime. That being said, Russian long range drones do fly near that "wedge" in the Polish-Ukrainian border all the time, but they do so on their flanking maneuver towards Lvov or something.

Bernd 2025-09-10 13:46:52 Nr. 9630

>>9629 >suggests that it's a provocation by the Ukrainian regime. Come on. Russian farts are not an adequate breathing mixture. Which of these is more likely: > russian drone of russian make is launched from russian allied territory < russian drone of russian make ends up intact in ukrainian hands and is launched from ukraine

Bernd 2025-09-10 13:47:57 Nr. 9631

SÄGE!

>>9624 And so does a wrongthink-seeking globalist, as it appears.

Bernd 2025-09-10 13:50:41 Nr. 9632

>>9630 >Come on. Yes, come on. The Ukraine is known for such provocations. The drone does not have enough range. Not even the Ukrainian regime claims that Russia launches drones from Belarus.

Bernd 2025-09-10 13:52:01 Nr. 9634

>>9632 >The Ukraine is known for such provocations proofs: everybody knows it :DD you have to diversify your info sources a bit, as I said russian farts are unhealthy for you in the long term

Bernd 2025-09-10 13:59:53 Nr. 9635

>>9634 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_Zagreb_Tu-141_crash https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_missile_explosion_in_Poland https://news.err.ee/1609779060/suspected-ukrainian-combat-drone-parts-found-in-estonian-field >you have to diversify your info sources a bit My "sources" is the type of the drone, its range, the place where it was found and the Ukrainian regime's maps showing that Belarus is never used to launch drones. Which of these sources are "Russian farts", my dear little shwab.

Bernd 2025-09-10 14:11:16 Nr. 9638

>>9625 >we don't know the actual range Not knowing the specifics of the gerbera, it would seem plausible that extended range versions exist that employ drop tanks or some such. It would be hard to tell from pictures of wreckage. >>9635 These were all drones/missiles of Ukrainian/Soviet make, and also just regular mistakes. Try sampling from a more complete list: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Violations_of_non-combatant_airspaces_during_the_Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine > my dear little shwab < russian slang from german ball the usual...

Bernd 2025-09-10 14:35:09 Nr. 9642

SÄGE!

>>9638 Refer to what I said here >>9629 If you can not see the difference between long range drones flying over Poland for a couple minutes during a flanking manoeuvre on their way to their targets int the Ukraine, and a drone with insufficient range being clearly launched from the Ukraine into the central Poland, then I guess it can not be helped. Either way, you're clearly agitated, and I have no interest in communicating with volunteer biobots.

Bernd 2025-09-10 14:42:58 Nr. 9644

Ukraine government drone'd Chernobyl and tried to blame Russia. They'll do some wild shit when feeling desperate.

Bernd 2025-09-10 14:42:58 Nr. 9645

This drone was found intact in western-central Poland, near Piotrków Trybunalski. It just landed and deactivated itself. Over 300 km from Eastern border of Poland.

Bernd 2025-09-10 14:46:14 Nr. 9646

>>9642 >being clearly launched from the Ukraine into the central Poland nice runglish and also not clear at all, you have repeatedly not shown any evidence that it came from UA except a map that shows drones flying into UA, not Poland

Bernd 2025-09-10 14:56:03 Nr. 9647

>>9644 Sauce?

Bernd 2025-09-10 15:04:37 Nr. 9648

>>9647 It's my opinion. I'm old enough to remember when Chernobyl happened and what a huge, global ordeal it was. It's unimaginable to me that Russia would risk the global backlash to throw some rinky-dink drone into the site's sarcophagus.

Bernd 2025-09-10 15:08:44 Nr. 9649

>>9648 >It's unimaginable to me that Russia would risk the global backlash to throw some rinky-dink drone into the site's sarcophagus. By what logic is it imaginable that Ukraine would do that? Don't they have even more to lose from backlash? Also, by any sane standards, NO ONE should be flying explosives anywhere near that thing, yet here we are.

Bernd 2025-09-10 15:12:28 Nr. 9650

>>9649 >Don't they have even more to lose from backlash? They're losing the fucking war for their country. They have little to lose. (for the record I see Russia as the illegal aggressors)

Bernd 2025-09-10 15:18:13 Nr. 9652

>>9650 Yeah, but Russia is already sanctioned a lot. What more can the west do without joining the war? On the other end, they can stop supplying weapons to Ukraine if they feel like Ukraine does risky things like that.

Bernd 2025-09-10 15:25:19 Nr. 9653

>>9652 I was just pointing out that Ukraine indeed does wild, desperate shit. As for solutions - now it's tough. US/Britain shouldn't have intervened to stop a peace settlement back in 2022 when Zelensky and Russia were about to sign a deal. US elites here were thrilled that Russia invaded and were hoping to wear Russia down militarily at the expense of Ukrainian lives. We can argue if that was successful or not.

Bernd 2025-09-10 15:26:16 Nr. 9654

>>9648 >>9649 it makes no sense to strike that sarcophagus with anything but a bunker buster if you want to achieve any kind of effect. the most likely thing that happened was that somebody's drone impacted it by accident.

Bernd 2025-09-10 15:28:24 Nr. 9655

>>9654 >the most likely thing that happened was that somebody's drone impacted it by accident. Sorry but that's retarded. That's like saying I accidentally slipped and put my dick in Taylor Swift.

Bernd 2025-09-10 15:36:30 Nr. 9656

>>9655 I mean it is pretty high up compared to everything around it. A ground-hugging flight path would have to be unlucky with the x/y coordinates but the z coordinates are on point.

Bernd 2025-09-10 16:29:19 Nr. 9664

>>9642 also, man, I am willing to engage with you but when the reasonable positions are "russia did it on purpose" and "russia didn't do it on purpose", maybe don't reach for the schizo option "it was a false flag"

official German defense ministry statement Bernd 2025-09-10 16:47:59 Nr. 9669

(turn on autotranslated subtitles or wait for press to report) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSM6xjst3sA

Bernd 2025-09-10 17:01:05 Nr. 9674

>>9669 He said "Shahed or equivalent", which, according to Wikipedia, has an operational range of 2500 km. Were the twitter reports fake? Are the Polish reports the German guy is quoting wrong?

Bernd 2025-09-10 17:06:04 Nr. 9676

>>9669 Did he dye his hair lmao?

Bernd 2025-09-10 17:08:35 Nr. 9679

>>9674 Gerberas are decoy Shaheds, same radar signature and flight characteristics (at least as far the Ukrainian air defense network at night is concerned). In this way they're equivalent. Gerberas are usually used to buff the Shahed numbers and make UA waste air defense efforts on worthless model planes.

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